Lynn ([info]readerofasaph) wrote,
@ 2008-08-21 07:02:00
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MBTI thoughts on fanficcers
Apropos of the poll here, which I'd still love people to respond to if they're willing, and supplementary to [info]aiwritingfic's discussion of MBTI and writing styles.

Only included are MBTI-types for which discernable patterns are discernable. SORRY ISTJS.


INFJs: [info]annotated_em, [info]muzivitch, [info]morphaileffect, [info]thesundaywriter

(IxFJs/INxJs/people in this category group: [info]grumpychild, [info]branchandroot)

I think the first thing I noticed about this is that all the INFJs were extremely recognizable names to me; a good number of my favourite writers, it seems, are INFJ (okay, so a lot of these people write Rikkai; maybe it's just the Yukimura effect?). Majority of the people here are reasonably prolific; in general I think of them as very well-rounded writers, particularly in their ability to evoke emotional dynamics. A few of the writers here are very wide-ranging in the thematic and conceptual content of their work.


INTJs: [info]thephoenixboy, [info]ilanabean42. I'm going to steal from the other MBTI polls and borrow the names of [info]aishuu, [info]issen4, [info]fyredancer, [info]ontogenesis, and [info]haruyuki for the generalisations.

In general, ridiculously prolific. These writers rule the multiparters, and are, in fact, the masters of the conceptual fic. Well-researched, canonically grounded, and in general, intellectually-heavy, possibly to a fault at times. In contrast with the, uh, overwhelming Rikkaization of the INFJs, I'm astounded by how many Hikaru no Go fandom staples seem to be INTJ.


INTPs: [info]giving_ground, [info]petronia, [info]tarigwaemir, [info]half_sleeping. Me!

...verbally and conceptually precise. Can be pretty obsessive about detail; fond of understated description, understated humor, and in fact understated everything - why say something directly when you can be very, very slanted instead? Occasionally, (and I'm digging at my own shortcomings here, this doesn't apply to ALL INTP writers) it feels like there should be more movement to their work. It sometimes feels like INTP-fic heads towards static perfection; rather aiming to tell a story, their writing tries to capture a scene, a mood, or a particular moment in time. Rather like photography, really; I was going to note that within Prince of Tennis fandom, the INTPs do seem to gravitate towards Fuji and write him well, but then Liz broke my analysis. AS USUAL.


INFPs: ....I really want to talk about these people, since MBTI-types always peg the INFPs as the writing-types, but only [info]dshae47 responded to my survey and she mainly writes in Spanish! Of the INFPs on the other polls, there were virtually no writers that I read on a regular basis, other than [info]canis_m, so it's hard to make generalisations. I think in general they evoke emotion and character interaction well, and that there is considerable animation and flair to their writing, but there's not much else I can say without more data. If anyone would like to weigh in I'd really appreciate it.



ISFPs: [info]lilacfield, [info]star_flare, [info]airairo, [info]aviatrix8

/thoughtful/ While these make up a minority of writers on LJ, when they do write I do like their writing very much. Good visual details and imagery; they evoke scenes very well, and produce some absolutely brilliant lines that I just want to quote back at them endlessly. In general they seem fond of ficlets and character interaction scenes, but - particularly in contrast with the INTJ fics, which always have some sort of overarching system - I'd like to see more conceptual organisation driving their fics at times.


ISTJs: ....break my brain. At least because 3 out of 4 of the ISTJs who have responded have given me at least one different MBTI result in the past, which is possibly why I can see no discernable pattern in the fic here. WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THIS ONE.



ENFPs: ...the main Extraverted writing type, apparently, with [info]aiwritingfic, [info]axtar and [info]sandrock ( who is CHEATING on the MBTI but I'll accept her self-analysis anyway.)

These people, like the INFPs, evoke character interaction well. They're very good at capturing the right feel for a particular scene or situation; I'm thinking in particular here of [info]sandrock's Death Note ficlets, with the astounding voice she creates for L and Misa. Some of them are very prolific, but tend to be less ambitious in scope than the INxJs; about a zillion ficlets appears to be the norm. I'd say that they are also very good at improvisation and writing off-the-cuff.



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[info]giving_ground
2008-08-20 09:17 pm UTC (link)
I was going to prickle a bit at the 'static' comment, but then I think... when I write most of the time I do end up trying to go for a mood, capture a moment. It's only when I really kick myself to work hard that story happens, although I love writing story. To be honest I used to only really write story! But laziness and need to just keep putting words together regardless of what the words are in case my writing ability somehow magically escapes... these things make me write little mood-pieces.

I break so many things. Computers. Crockery. Myself. It's a talent.

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[info]maaya1x2
2008-08-20 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Good work on an interesting analysis! (Lolz @ "my" personality type, ISTJ, being so difficult.)

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 12:32 pm UTC (link)
/shakes head/ I'll figure you guys out yet. JUST GIVE ME TIME. AND MORE DATA.

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[info]ashesto
2008-08-20 09:47 pm UTC (link)
Pffthahaha. I still don't know what any of these letters MEAN. xD;

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[info]ashesto
2008-08-20 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Oops, hit send before I finished. To be fair, I was pretty midline with most of them, though? I think it was like... 40% for the T part, so. /o/

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-20 09:48 pm UTC (link)
At least read up on your type!!! which incidentally, doesn't seem to fit!

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(no subject) - [info]ashesto, 2008-08-20 09:54 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]sandrock
2008-08-20 09:50 pm UTC (link)
I swear I'm not cheating. But, for the sake of discussion, I went and took the test again, and got ENFJ (again). Isn't there a classification for people who are in-between two answers? Because I really don't see myself as Judging, but if the test insists...

I think I fall more neatly into Perceiving than Judging for a number of reasons, but particularly telling is my learning style. Perhaps not as complete as the MBTI, but still helpful. I'm an extreme AR - abstract random. Being Random, as opposed to Sequential, seems to indicate Perceiving, not Judging.

Some of them are very prolific, but tend to be less ambitious in scope than the INxJs; about a zillion ficlets appears to be the norm. I'd say that they are also very good at improvisation and writing off-the-cuff.

Very me. Because Judgmental people have greater clarity regarding deadlines and more focus, they probably don't create shorter works very often.

... I can't see Clara the ENFJ. Can't see it. I'm an Extremely orgaNized Free Pthinker (to borrow loosely a Terry Pratchett reference).

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-20 09:54 pm UTC (link)
...well, [info]lady_of_water is an ENFJ and she does do quite a few ficlets, although she has also successfully done NaNoWriMo two or three times. If anyone under the age of eighteen has successfully completed a novel I'm almost inclined to type them as J until proven otherwised.


Everyone tends to look kinda J to me, though, since I am extremely P. It's my N, though, that's off-the-charts.

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(no subject) - [info]giving_ground, 2008-08-20 09:59 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]aiwritingfic
2008-08-21 02:37 am UTC (link)
*butts in again* (Sorry about all the butting in.)

The Random/Sequential split seems to indicate the iNtuitive/Sensing split instead... ^_^

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[info]muzivitch
2008-08-20 10:04 pm UTC (link)
I think the INFJ analysis pretty much works for me. I'm prolific sometimes, although lately the conversations have been going thus:

Friend: You should write something D:
Me: I'm busy.
Friend: I miss your writing D:
Me: I'm moving in 2 weeks, lay off.

And I also think of myself as a pretty emotional writer. It's all about the feelings, really :D I often write to capture an emotion, which is why my fic tends to be short. That, and I'm epically lazy.

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 07:47 am UTC (link)
Yeah. All the NFs, I think, tend to be pretty emotional writers, although the INFPs in particular seem to be intense; ENFPs are bright rather than intense, and the INFJs have quite a laidback emotional texture.

Ahh, time to write. ISN'T THAT ALWAYS THE PROBLEM.

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[info]morphaileffect
2008-08-20 10:44 pm UTC (link)
i really enjoyed reading this. i should go back and look over the other MBTI analyses that have been done within the year, but time constraints and lack of actual internet during regular working hours are currently preventing me from doing 90% of the things i want to do online :(

i'm friends with some INFP writers IRL - i've noticed i'm especially drawn to their work, because it strikes me as very personal; they write mainly what satisfies them emotionally. seriously, they make the best character interactions and PWPs. i think [info]aishuu's pointed this out before, though her phrasing was different? i really admire the INFP writer who manages to balance lyricism and form: his/her work tends to be outstanding.

there's a particular ISFP writer whom i really, really admire, and i'm thinking her style is very unique and distinguishable. it's all about mood and sensations, capturing moments in order to portray interactions. sometimes her characters all sound like they're the same person, which makes the dialogue parts sound like a great big gray area that begs to be filled out... but i don't really mind this, because i'm more drawn by the things her characters do and think and feel - the gray areas in the dialogue just accentuate how vivid the narrative parts are. like INFP writers, she puts a lot of her own thoughts and emotions into her writing. it seems deliberate and stylistic, in the end.

identity protected because i'm shy :D;

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[info]morphaileffect
2008-08-20 10:55 pm UTC (link)
...although i think i should replace "thoughts and emotions" up there with "sound." i'm a very aural reader i think ^^ the way a writer puts together his/her words is important to me, it helps me find their writing voice, if there's such a term XD

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 08:03 am UTC (link)
Thank you so much for your insights! *appreciates very much, has read and reread* Your descirption of ISFP-writing rings very true to me.

I suspect that the INTx writers are more likely to write what satisfies them intellectually, rather than emotionally. Huh. Will have to think about this.

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[info]lilacfield
2008-08-20 10:55 pm UTC (link)
I'd like to see more conceptual organisation driving their fics at times

I, I, I. Get very easily distracted, not only in fic-writing but also IRL. Thus the ficlets. -_- It's a blue-eyed wonder I ever finished a NaNo at all.

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 08:05 am UTC (link)
Hey. /rueful/ I'm an INTP, I'm not about to call the kettle black. I have conceptual organisation, just zero capacity to actually cary it out.. I'm trying to break that habit, though, not allowing myself to write unless it's something with actual storyline.

Edited at 2008-08-21 08:06 am UTC

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[info]branchandroot
2008-08-20 11:43 pm UTC (link)
*laughing* I could totally believe it's the Yukimura effect. In general, Rikkai seems to offer the most of that inward intensity that resonates with an INF.

*considers* I think, based on my own experience, I'd toss in that Ns collaborate best, but only if their J/P matches. High N plus matching J/P seems to make for a downright mind-meld. That may not be universal, though.

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 12:00 am UTC (link)
/wry/ Well, given [info]giving_ground hits INFP about half the time... (I hit it rarely on the online tests, but never on a paper one, although my T preference is the weakest of the four.)

We were doing MBTI testing in class not long back and were sorted into groups and basically told to collaborate on a theoretical experiment; I ended up with the ENTP since ironically, there were only two NTs in a group of sixteen medical students. The mind-meld was quite frightening on my side, although I'm not sure whether he was experiencing it himself. The main downside was having to be the one responsible for bringing closure to the discussion, because ENTPs can basically generate ideas. And keep on generating ideas. For as long as you need them to generate ideas. *would have been happy to have some Js around at that point to be organised*

The trouble with collaborating with other NPs is that I suspect we would Never. Get. Anything. Done. The synchronicity, no doubt, would be stunning.

Edited at 2008-08-21 12:03 am UTC

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 12:08 am UTC (link)
...and I say ironically but maybe it makes sense that there are not so many NTs in my class. Too much of medicine is this weird, logic-defying system of facts.

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[info]tarigwaemir
2008-08-21 01:28 am UTC (link)
Oh, you pinned me down perfectly; my main problem with my own writing is its static quality. I don't think Sabina has this problem, though I do perceive the "movement" in her fic as also being understated.

When I get lazy, I do engage in excessive prose that isn't understated at all, but that's more of an affected voice than my natural one.

(ETA: Ah, sorry for the double comment; my browser has been wonky and I thought it didn't post the first time.)

Edited at 2008-08-21 01:33 am UTC

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 01:41 am UTC (link)
/wry/ In discussing the INTPs I probably imprinted a few too many of my own problems onto the group as a whole; I'm constantly struggling to make things happen in my work. You and Sabina are such experienced writers that it's hard to just look and find flaws, so I just mainly extrapolated from my own writing experience. XD

When I get lazy I write like an IN.J in a hurry; the barest minimum of detail to get by in a story. I kinda really hate the results when I go back and look at the stuff, though; I'm very conscious of, rather than the aural effects of words, the texture that they produce, and the sparse undecorative style that is my lazy voice is often at odds with the feel I'm trying to go for.

Edited at 2008-08-21 01:44 am UTC

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(no subject) - [info]tarigwaemir, 2008-08-21 08:12 am UTC (Expand)

[info]aiwritingfic
2008-08-21 02:22 am UTC (link)
INFP = AU/Crossover genius. (Which supports my own theory that I am XNFP. ^_^)

ENFP = I think that the ENFPs who write are those who are occasionally XNXP.

ETA: All the INTPs I know are grad students or show signs of becoming one. O_o

Edited at 2008-08-21 04:52 am UTC

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[info]giving_ground
2008-08-21 06:51 am UTC (link)
And yet Pez writes awesome AU - TBH some of the best in the fandom in terms of setting and story - and if she's INFP I will eat my nonexistent hat. *g*

I won't break the pattern on the grad student one! I'm not right now but I have my sights set on an MA in Library, Archive and Information Studies a few years from now...

Edited at 2008-08-21 06:52 am UTC

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[info]ashesto
2008-08-21 09:52 am UTC (link)
Also, all this categorizing has been making me wonder how MBTI relates to the writing process. Especially since ISTJ seems to be so mixed bag writing-style-wise. xD

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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 11:59 am UTC (link)
/wry/ Well, tell you what. Your write about your writing process, I'll try and post about mine at some stage, trying to pick out the bits that I think are particularly true for INTP-ish fics. And we'll attempt to recruit people for the ENFP, INFJ and whatever. (ENFP is going to be HARD, since the main characteristic of the ENFPs thus far seems to be a refusal to accept whatever their MBTI type is.)

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[info]thesundaywriter
2008-08-21 10:38 am UTC (link)
Emotional dynamics.

Sometimes I find I'm a little too attached to bits of fic I like. If I think about a particularly dramatic scene, it can have an influence on my mood lol. Also tend to write when I feel like writing, so some of my updates can take forever.

That said, this is an interesting analysis. Will save it ♥

Also, the bit about each category of writers tending to write about a certain fandom/team/character is interesting. Even though I haven't written a Rikkai fic, I'd like to one day though... but I'm not so familiar with the team dynamics. And some of the good writers intimidate me. I don't know why =.=()...


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[info]readerofasaph
2008-08-21 12:38 pm UTC (link)
XD. I first noticed the INFJ pattern on my LJ when the HnG writers were making a big fuss about EVERYONE in their fandom being INTJ, and I was thinking, wth? Nobody I know on my f-list is an INTJ.

I think Tenipuri is more appealing to the Feeling-types in general; lots of emotion, less intellectualness than the game of Go. And yes. XD. I'm all for more people writing Rikkai; it's true that it's had some really amazing writers writing for it, but I think that'd be equally true for Seigaku. It depends what you're comfortable with; I think manga Rikkai has really complex dynamics, filled with a lot of deep emotion. The anime version is a bit more...bland. Washed out.

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[info]axtar
2008-08-21 12:53 pm UTC (link)
*blinks in awe at your analysis* Woooooow~ I can't quite wrap my brain around all these personality types really, mostly because while the core personality stays somewhat stable, one can react differently from one's usual habits depending on the situation. Doesn't that go for fic sometimes as well - when a person write fics that don't seem to conform to their usual style but they have no trouble writing it?

*ERM, OKAY THAT MADE MORE SENSE IN MY HEAD - A SIGN I NEED SLEEP* ^^;;

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[info]star_flare
2008-08-22 10:31 am UTC (link)
Haha, I think I'm right in the middle of sensing and intuition, and about the only category I fall extremely, extremely under (and will probably never change) is introversion. XD For the most part, I am basically just awed/impressed that you... actually analyzed the data for this. *____*

Not familiar with everyone's writing here, although I've read at least one fic by everyone listed under the INTP type (I don't think I ever got over [info]petronia's A Proof by Contradition, haha), and I agree with the understated thing. :P

...LOL, conceptual organization.

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